HomeMy WebLinkAbout11.02.2009COUNCIL WORK SESSION
November 2, 2009
4:00 p.m.
Council Chambers
Members present: Getty, Hart, Greenwood, Steve Schmitt, Welper, Reggie Schmitt. Absent:
Cole.
Moved by Reggie Schmitt, seconded by Steve Schmitt that the Agenda, as proposed, be
approved. Ayes: Six. Absent: Cole. Motion carried.
Mayor Hurley noted that the changes to the City Council Hotel/Motel Tax Grant form and
process is almost done. He stated that Councilperson Hart expressed interest in this and got
input from everyone. Mayor Hurley stated that it is down to this particular form and that it is
also on the agenda. He stated that moving it forward or not is up to the Council.
Councilperson Hart distributed information regarding some small revisions that were done after
input from Councilperson Schmitt and Michelle Weidner, Chief Financial Officer.
Mayor Hurley asked if there were any changes in the tax exempt arena. Councilperson Hart
stated that he was waiting for some input on that particular part during the work session.
Councilperson Hart reviewed the handout and commented on a possible process that could be
used. He suggested doing the process quarterly after having a conversation with Michelle
Weidner.
Mayor Hurley asked what changes were made. Councilperson Hart stated that item number 12
was changed. Councilperson Reggie Schmitt commented that he spoke with Councilperson Hart
regarding this item and stated that the item sounded incomplete. Councilperson Reggie Schmitt
stated that originally item 12 asked that a 1 page final report detailing the results of the project be
submitted. Councilperson Reggie Schmitt stated that he questioned when the report was to be
submitted, what the content should be, what the consequence is if a report is not submitted and
suggested adding something about future applications not being considered if a final report is not
submitted.
Councilperson Hart commented on the first original paragraph at the top on the first page. He
stated that he questioned what Mayor Hurley had originally suggested about sending the form
back and questioned who would be responsible for actually sending it back. Councilperson Hart
stated he felt the council should not review them because he didn't know if we wanted the City
Clerk sending 10-15 applications back. Councilperson Hart stated that he was putting that part
of the accountability back on the entity. Mayor Hurley stated that would mean that if council
detected some small error, that it would sit or it wouldn't be reviewed. Councilperson Hart
stated his willingness to revise this part also.
Councilperson Getty stated this is including a lot of organizations and a lot of activities and
asked if this is hotel/motel tax funds.
Councilperson Hart stated that it is still hotel/motel, but it's actually getting a solid process that
people actually know. He stated that his thoughts were to have a little bit more accountability on
the funding that council is actually giving to people, but it's not changing the people being able
to be awarded.
Mayor Hurley stated he wrote a summary of staff responses to Council on September 21, 2009
and sat on his desk for a while. He believes that Council started talking about this back in
August.
Councilperson Welper commented that he really appreciates all of the work that Councilperson
Hart has done on this and whoever else has worked on this. He stated that he understands the
accountability of the money that is handed out and caution that we don't turn into another
Convention & Visitors Bureau. Councilperson Welper stated that we've been here long enough
that we've gone through stacks of requests and that is not a fun thing to do. We are very
fortunate that the Convention & Visitors Bureau has taken that task over, and that he doesn't
want to go back to that. He stated he is not against it, but caution that they don't get themselves
a job that they don't want.
Councilperson Welper, stated that they're looking at support of tourism and heads on beds. The
reason that these people come to us is because they do provide some form of entertainment to the
community but don't necessarily put heads on beds. They don't qualify for the grants through
the Convention and Visitors Bureau, that's why they come to us.
Mayor Hurley stated that the sense here is that we lack a certain type of structure. We do it one
way for this one and then another way for that one. Mayor Hurley stated that number 11 requires
documentation of IRS 501c, and he thought originally it was C3, but that we don't want to do
that.
Mayor Hurley stated that we want a tax exempt status but our own city isn't a C3 so that would
rule out police and fire, for instance, for overtime.
Mayor Hurley stated that another thing that we didn't ask for but it would be helpful when we
write the checks is their W-9 form that gives their taxpayer identity.
Mayor Hurley stated that incomplete applications will not be reviewed. He doesn't know who is
going to see these things first whether it's the Clerks office or the Mayor's office, to detect if
something is incorrect.
Councilperson Greenwood stated that if its incomplete, then we should just go back and try to be
user friendly instead of throwing it in the wastepaper basket.
Councilperson Greenwood stated that the only thought that he had is if its truly something that
supports tourism and heads on beds, then would we give it to the Convention & Visitors Bureau
instead of looking at it.
Mayor Hurley stated that with the BBQ'Loo the Convention & Visitors Bureau didn't award
anything to that after all of this time and a lot of people bring in their fancy trucks and vans and
sleep over there, but it does create quality of life and a little bit of tourism. And so its like what
Councilperson Welper stated that some of those just fall through. They don't meet the criteria
they are in a stiffer competition in asking for more money when they go to Convention &
Visitors Bureau.
Mayor Hurley asked about the process. Councilperson Hart suggested that four times a year,
with complete applications, a small Ad -Hoc Council Committee along with the Chief Financial
Officer review them quarterly and then submit the, eligible ones to a full Council. Mayor Hurley
asked who would appoint the Ad -Hoc Committee. He asked about the applications that are on
his desk and if we should send those back and ask that they be reformatted applications. Mayor
Hurley stated that we went dry for a year so that we could build up. And so when July 1st comes
we know how much discretionary money we have.
Michelle Weidner, Chief Financial Officer, stated that she and Councilperson Hart talked earlier
today about continuing it so she ran off copies of what we currently have for hotel/motel
discretionary. She stated there's a balance in there today of about $80,000.00 that she would
propose using to allocate January 1st, April 1st and next July 1st, and then we' 11 use what we
collected in 2009.
Councilperson Reggie Schmitt asked if so we are always a quarter behind.
Michelle Weidner, stated that we are a year and a quarter basically so that we have a balance
built up and so that we can project how much money we have in that pod. It makes it much
easier for budgeting and then you'd have about $26,000.00 a quarter maybe for the next three
quarters then she just averaged the last three years since the casino opened. She stated it would
look like we'd probably have an average of maybe $30,000.00 a quarter to start giving out next
year, and you could consider doing something like the Gaming Association does. If you have a
large commitment that you want to honor, you could potentially say we're going to allocate
$5,000.00 of the next three quarters for that large one, and that would still give you other money
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to allocate to other projects during that quarter if you wanted to and if you don't want to
obviously you don't have to.
Mayor Hurley stated that's good thoughts. It gets it much more formal. The only thing is if you
get 15 applications in and they are all pretty good and they wet your appetite. In that January 1st
period you could give it all away. So you'll have to be discerning. Of course you could do that
anyway, it could happen.
It was then the consensus of the Council to keep the item on the council agenda.
With no further business before the Council, it was moved by Reggie Schmitt, seconded by
Steve Schmitt that the meeting be adjourned at 4:12 p.m. Ayes: Six. Absent: Cole. Motion
carried.
Carol Failor
Deputy City Clerk